Well said, coach. Are Lao Shen, Bai Qiang and Dick burning cars somewhere? >From: JD Wang <jdwang100@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: JD Wang <jdwang100@hotmail.com> >To: dragon@ez.swmed.edu >CC: sports@hueco.rsn.hp.com >Subject: RE: Short msg from Korea >Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2002 19:47:20 +0000 > >It was sad to watch them to fall like what they did. Tom got it right, they >are not even in the same league. It took Korea a while to get where they >are >now. Give them some time. > >Who to blame: the system and the fans, too much money and too easy for them >in current system. fans put them on top of the world just because they got >in, no body want to be the one who tells them that they got in because they >were lucky, not because they are any good. They have long way to go and >they >are the weakest team out there. > >Soccer is all about speed, skills and endurance. Which one is our >specialty? >None! So far. I hope next generation can do better than this one. I don't >think we can take a joy ride on our national team any time soon. Sorry >guys, >that's the reality. There for, enjoy your own team here. By the way, there >are no Asian team in top 4 divisions of North Texas league. > >I have no "cents", I have been mad and sad for 30 years. I guess that will >not stop any time soon. > >You guys are true soccer fans. > > > > >>From: "Han, Hong" <HHan@Santera.com> >>To: "Tom Zheng" <tzheng@rsn.hp.com>, <dragon@ez.swmed.edu> >>CC: <sports@hueco.rsn.hp.com> >>Subject: RE: Short msg from Korea >>Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 14:13:19 -0500 >> >>These guys just want to find some excuses for avoiding next game. They >>lost >>from head to foot, from body to soul. >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Tom Zheng [mailto:tzheng@rsn.hp.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:53 PM >>To: dragon@ez.swmed.edu >>Cc: sports@hueco.rsn.hp.com >>Subject: Re: Short msg from Korea >> >> >> >>And what this news tells us? >> >> http://dailynews.cnool.net/title-home.phtml?id=139717 >> >>There is no doubt about Sun,Jihai's injury. But Fan "Ye" >>reveals that he played with injury after the game finished? >>He clearly shows that he is one big time selfish SOB, injuried or >>not. You're one last man on the defense line and you couldn't >>move because of your ankles hurt? Take yourself out and let >>someone else who could move to play. But this dumbs* stayed to >>complete his standing show until the 74th minutes(I believe taken >>out by Lao Mi but not by himself) and were trailing 2:0(both thanked >>by his unfortunate hurt ankles). >> >>I'd seen people playing with injuries, but they played even harder than >>when they're normal. But this guy, man! I have to turn to >>NC-17 rated dictionary to find words to describe him. >> >>-- >>|-Tom Zheng tzheng@rsn.hp.com Hewlett-Packard WORK : (972)497-4202| >>|-Platform Software Architecture Laboratory TELNET: (+1)497-4202| >>|-P.O. BOX 833851, Richardson, TX, 75083-3851 FAX : (972)497-4245| >>|_______________________________________________________________________| >> >>On 0, Scott Bao <sbao@cisco.com> wrote: >> > Tom, >> > >> > You are damn right that Fan,Zhiyi should be benched for life. When I >>read the news earlier that >> > he and his BMW slamed someone in Shanghai and beat the hell out of the >>other driver, I know what this and most of >> > the chinese players are made of. Not much better than street scums. >>To >>have a big heart and some sportsmanship >> > for them is beyond my imagination. They are simply weak! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Tom Zheng wrote: >> > >> > > Not disappointed, but pissed off. I am not too upset about the loss >> > > and our clearly inferior physical and soccer skills. They are >> > > technicalities that can be improved and corrected overtime(even over >> > > a long time). What was ticked me off the most was lack of showing of >> > > the fire and the fighting spirit to compete, this should come with >> > > the players themself, regardless how good or bad their soccer skills, >> > > especially true for any professional who has the chance playing in >>their >> > > sports' top show ground. >> > > >> > > Simply look how Japan and Korea played their games that follow, these >> > > chinese players ought to be ashamed of their showings in the previous >>game. >> > > Instead of only some runnings in the first 10-15 minutes, the players >> > > seem to have finished all the tasks on showing up for the game, even >>while >> > > they were trailing behind. Fast forward one game ahead, Japan faught >> > > even harder while behind one goal and eventually got back and led in >> > > less than 20 minutes, and they kept the fighting till last minute. >> > > Those Polish might not be a much stronger opponent for this cup but >> > > Korea still had to fight to keep the lead. >> > > >> > > Not that Japan and Korea players have much better all around soccer >> > > games than China, they had many bad passes and both of them may >> > > be likely to miss the 2nd round at the end. Still, the reason the >> > > people will feel that they played better than China are just because >> > > their players played hard, period. >> > > >> > > I admit that I hadn't watched China playing for too many times during >> > > last few years, but everything I read was that Chinese players had >>been >> > > much skillful and physically bigger lately. On paper it looks like >> > > all is true. The roster has only three players at 178cm and the rest >> > > are all 180cm+, and most of them are young players. You would image >> > > they will at least play the game at the same competitive level as >> > > Japan and Korea would play. But the pathetic showing last night >> > > is telling a totally different story, and I am wondering how these >> > > guys could get this far and just simply let themself get humiliated >> > > infront of the whole world (I clearly felt the announcers at ESPN2 >> > > were laughing hard on their backs. I wouldn't blame them, regardless >> > > how bad results US team will get, at least everyone knows that they >> > > will fight each game to death with their 120% effort). More >>depressing >> > > is that China will get two even tougher and mean opponents on Brazil >>and >> > > Turkey, I'd wish these Chinese players will put up at least one good >> > > fight to keep them off from the most un-inspired team award >>contention, >> > > let those Saudis have it. >> > > >> > > On individual players, I don't know about "Hao" Dong and Yang Chen, >> > > our forwards didn't show much, not sure if their physically are not >> > > better than their defenders or our mid-fielders didn't get the balls >> > > to them, may be both. And how these two could survive/serve at >>European >> > > professional leagues is still a mystery to me. >> > > >> > > My MVP of the game on China side is Li,WeiFeng, he may be the only >> > > guy who ran his butts off over entire game. If you care to review >> > > the tape, just counting how manys camos he got. He was everywhere, >> > > on both offense and defense sides. That keeps you wondering where >> > > everyone else was doing? >> > > >> > > My suckest player of the game vote is to Fan, ZhiYi, another center >>defender >> > > and is so called our top and most experienced player on the team, >> > > and the entire nation with 1billion people? B***S***. I don't care >> > > how he performed before, but I can prove to you(trust me, I studied >>the tape >> > > multiple times) that the two goals we got scored on were 90%, >> > > if not 100%, dueto his sloppy plays as the last defender. In >>addition, >> > > he did nothing during the game, most of time standing like a stick, >> > > and as the team leader, I didn't him do anything to motivate the >> > > teammates to fight harder. Oh well, he himself had not motivation >>what >> > > so ever. If w/o Li,WeiFeng's strong play, we might have lost even >>more >> > > goals. This POS should be benched for life. And how did he get to >> > > play in English Premier League, another mystery to me. >> > > >> > > Sorry for the long post, had to get it out of my mind. I thought I >>had >> > > long removed any emotional attachment with the national team, but I >> > > guessed I got sucked into the warmhole by the hype again this time, a >> > > clever crafted scam at its best. >> > > >> > > Just sucks to be a chinese rightnow:-( >> > > >> > > -- >> > > |-Tom Zheng tzheng@rsn.hp.com Hewlett-Packard WORK : >>(972)497-4202| >> > > |-Platform Software Architecture Laboratory TELNET: >>(+1)497-4202| >> > > |-P.O. BOX 833851, Richardson, TX, 75083-3851 FAX : >>(972)497-4245| >> > > >>|_______________________________________________________________________| >> > > >> > > On 0, John Dong <johndong@microsoft.com> wrote: >> > > > Agree! We are not mentally ready. And so slow. However I like Chen >>Yang >> > > > the best, he had a couple of very good pass, and unfortunately, we >> > > > didn't have anyone come in the middle. Look at performance from >>Japan >> > > > and Korea, I am so disappointed... >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: Qiang Bai [mailto:qbai@hotmail.com] >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:26 AM >> > > > To: fzwangbin@yahoo.com; tzheng@rsn.hp.com; dcai@citlink.net >> > > > Cc: dragon@ez.swmed.edu >> > > > Subject: Re: Short msg from Korea >> > > > >> > > > Steve was very upset about the performance of team China. >>Especially >> > > > when all Korean people are celebrating right now. >> > > > >> > > > Simply, CHina is not at the same level at all. The fans were so >>great. >> > > > >From all of the world -- we had people from London, NYC, >>Guangdong, >> > > > Sichuan, ..., sitting around. Among the 20K+ audience for today's >>game, >> > > > at least 80% were Chinese and 95% cherring for China. >> > > > >> > > > Our best player is probabaly still Hao Haidong. Well, look at Korea >>and >> > > > Japan's attackers. >> > > > >> > > > Hey, who knows? Maybe China will beat Brazil and Turkey? ;-) >> > > > >> > > > I am going to go to Bushan for the game of France on 06/06. Seems >> > > > tickets >> > > > availabel. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ >> > > > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: >>http://messenger.msn.com >> > >> > - >> > >> > > > > > >JD Wang >972-208-3616 > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
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