Re: Short msg from Korea

From: Scott Bao (sbao@cisco.com)
Date: Tue Jun 04 2002 - 11:57:49 CDT


Tom,

You are damn right that Fan,Zhiyi should be benched for life.  When I read the news earlier  that
he and his BMW slamed someone in Shanghai and beat the hell out of the other driver,  I know what this and most of
the chinese players are made of.  Not much better than street scums.  To have a big heart and some sportsmanship
for them is beyond my imagination.  They are simply weak!




Tom Zheng wrote:

> Not disappointed, but pissed off.  I am not too upset about the loss
> and our clearly inferior physical and soccer skills.  They are
> technicalities that can be improved and corrected overtime(even over
> a long time).  What was ticked me off the most was lack of showing of
> the fire and the fighting spirit to compete, this should come with
> the players themself, regardless how good or bad their soccer skills,
> especially true for any professional who has the chance playing in their
> sports' top show ground.
>
> Simply look how Japan and Korea played their games that follow, these
> chinese players ought to be ashamed of their showings in the previous game.
> Instead of only some runnings in the first 10-15 minutes, the players
> seem to have finished all the tasks on showing up for the game, even while
> they were trailing behind.  Fast forward one game ahead, Japan faught
> even harder while behind one goal and eventually got back and led in
> less than 20 minutes, and they kept the fighting till last minute.
> Those Polish might not be a much stronger opponent for this cup but
> Korea still had to fight to keep the lead.
>
> Not that Japan and Korea players have much better all around soccer
> games than China, they had many bad passes and both of them may
> be likely to miss the 2nd round at the end.  Still, the reason the
> people will feel that they played better than China are just because
> their players played hard, period.
>
> I admit that I hadn't watched China playing for too many times during
> last few years, but everything I read was that Chinese players had been
> much skillful and physically bigger lately.  On paper it looks like
> all is true.  The roster has only three players at 178cm and the rest
> are all 180cm+, and most of them are young players.  You would image
> they will at least play the game at the same competitive level as
> Japan and Korea would play.  But the pathetic showing last night
> is telling a totally different story, and I am wondering how these
> guys could get this far and just simply let themself get humiliated
> infront of the whole world (I clearly felt the announcers at ESPN2
> were laughing hard on their backs.  I wouldn't blame them, regardless
> how bad results US team will get, at least everyone knows that they
> will fight each game to death with their 120% effort).  More depressing
> is that China will get two even tougher and mean opponents on Brazil and
> Turkey, I'd wish these Chinese players will put up at least one good
> fight to keep them off from the most un-inspired team award contention,
> let those Saudis have it.
>
> On individual players, I don't know about "Hao" Dong and Yang Chen,
> our forwards didn't show much, not sure if their physically are not
> better than their defenders or our mid-fielders didn't get the balls
> to them, may be both.  And how these two could survive/serve at European
> professional leagues is still a mystery to me.
>
> My MVP of the game on China side is Li,WeiFeng, he may be the only
> guy who ran his butts off over entire game.  If you care to review
> the tape, just counting how manys camos he got.  He was everywhere,
> on both offense and defense sides. That keeps you wondering where
> everyone else was doing?
>
> My suckest player of the game vote is to Fan, ZhiYi, another center defender
> and is so called our top and most experienced player on the team,
> and the entire nation with 1billion people?  B***S***.  I don't care
> how he performed before, but I can prove to you(trust me, I studied the tape
> multiple times) that the two goals we got scored on were 90%,
> if not 100%, dueto his sloppy plays as the last defender. In addition,
> he did nothing during the game, most of time standing like a stick,
> and as the team leader, I didn't him do anything to motivate the
> teammates to fight harder.  Oh well, he himself had not motivation what
> so ever.  If w/o Li,WeiFeng's strong play, we might have lost even more
> goals.  This POS should be benched for life.  And how did he get to
> play in English Premier League, another mystery to me.
>
> Sorry for the long post, had to get it out of my mind.  I thought I had
> long removed any emotional attachment with the national team, but I
> guessed I got sucked into the warmhole by the hype again this time, a
> clever crafted scam at its best.
>
> Just sucks to be a chinese rightnow:-(
>
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> On  0, John Dong <johndong@microsoft.com> wrote:
> > Agree! We are not mentally ready. And so slow. However I like Chen Yang
> > the best, he had a couple of very good pass, and unfortunately, we
> > didn't have anyone come in the middle. Look at performance from Japan
> > and Korea, I am so disappointed...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Qiang Bai [mailto:qbai@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:26 AM
> > To: fzwangbin@yahoo.com; tzheng@rsn.hp.com; dcai@citlink.net
> > Cc: dragon@ez.swmed.edu
> > Subject: Re: Short msg from Korea
> >
> > Steve was very upset about the performance of team China. Especially
> > when all Korean people are celebrating right now.
> >
> > Simply, CHina is not at the same level at all. The fans were so great.
> > >From all of the world -- we had people from London, NYC, Guangdong,
> > Sichuan, ..., sitting around. Among the 20K+ audience for today's game,
> > at least 80% were Chinese and 95% cherring for China.
> >
> > Our best player is probabaly still Hao Haidong. Well, look at Korea and
> > Japan's attackers.
> >
> > Hey, who knows? Maybe China will beat Brazil and Turkey? ;-)
> >
> > I am going to go to Bushan for the game of France on 06/06. Seems
> > tickets
> > availabel.
> >
> >
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