RE: [Soccer] change of mid-week game day

From: Chen, Mark (MChen@santera.com)
Date: Fri Sep 14 2001 - 16:23:54 CDT


Eric says 'Yes'. Dragon email server was down for ~ 1 hour.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Zhang [mailto:eric@chop.swmed.edu]
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 4:19 PM
To: Chen, Mark
Subject: RE: [Soccer] change of mid-week game day


Yes for me

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Eric Zhang
Howard Hughes Medical Institute
UT Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas	Phone:	214-648-5034
5325 Harry Hines Blvd. Y4-106			Fax:	214-648-5066
Dallas, TX 75390		E-mail:	Eric.Zhang@UTSouthwestern.edu

On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Chen, Mark wrote:

> Dragons,
>  
> It seems that we have to make a decision really soon. Please vote if Team
> Dragon shall have a private practice session on one of the weekdays only,
> for now. Dragon veterans are welcome to the sessions, no doubt about that.
> It will be auto-approved if 14 players say 'Yes'.
>  
> YES
> ===
> Bao, Scott,
> Chen, Gang
> Bai, Qiang
> Su, XianDong
> Chen, Si
>  
> NO
> ===
> ???
>  
> Following players' responses are needed!
>  
> PENDING
> =======
> He, Yi
> Yang, ShiLiang
> Liu, Andy
> Cai, Dick
> Tang, QiSheng
> Han, Ray
> Xing, Alex
> Zhou, Wei
> Wang, BinBing
> Zhang, Cheng
> Dong, Jian
> Wang, Daniel
> Chen, Jun
> Li, Huan
> Zhou, Ge
> Eric, Zhang
>  
> Also, Qi Wang, Lao Shen, JD, and LiXian Huang, please also comment on this
> if possible.
>  
> Thanks,
> -Chen, Si
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: David Chen [mailto:qiudichen@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:48 PM
> To: dragon@ez.swmed.edu
> Subject: Re: [Soccer] change of mid-week game day
> 
> 
> 
> I agree. We should have at least one of the weekday for practice, which is
> controlable in time and injure. 
> Any one else is welcome to join us if (s)he obeys the our rule. And there
> are enought people for others to play. It will be different story after
> season. 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Scott Bao <mailto:sbao@cisco.com>  
> To: Chen, Mark <mailto:MChen@santera.com>  
> Cc: dragon@ez.swmed.edu <mailto:dragon@ez.swmed.edu>  
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Soccer] change of mid-week game day
> 
> Agree that we should not alienate any groups of peoples, especially most
of
> them are good friends, even they are not in the Dragon team. 
> Disagree that  play chaos is caused by  frequent location and time
changes.
> The matter of fact is,  we just have too many players in the field. 
> 
> So  having a dragon team practice in one of the weekday, ( we still have a
> all-together practice either on Tuesday or Thursday) will solve this
> problem. 
> If you have the energy and interest, you can play both days. 
> 
> 
> It has been a failure to force  play rules in this community, as we all
have
> seen.   Unfortunately soccer  somewhat is a disiplined team game.  Freedom
> won't 
> bring you much  fun. 
> 
> 
> Please voice your opinions on this. 
>   
>   
>   
>   
> 
> 
> "Chen, Mark" wrote: 
> 
> 
> All,I share the same feelings as Scott has. Li Huan also has similar
> concerns regarding the chaos for quite some times, I think. The reasons
are
> due to the frequently changing play locations and times, etc. Now those
are
> all fixed.However, since 70% of the current players in practices are from
> team Dragon (including Dragon veterans), we really do not want to
introduce
> any alienations or hostilities from the rest of soccer community. This is
my
> major concern.I want to hear what rest of Dragons' thoughts are on this.
BQ
> already expressed his.Enforcing the timing rules on practices shall help
out
> the situation a lot, I think. Not just myself, anybody can enforce
it.-Chen,
> Si 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Scott Bao [ mailto:sbao@cisco.com <mailto:sbao@cisco.com> ] 
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:41 AM 
> To: Chen, Mark; dragon@ez.swmed.edu 
> Subject: Re: [Soccer] change of mid-week game day
> I always think Dragon team needs a private  pratice session.   That's how
we
> know eachother better 
> and improve the level of play, and more discipline and fun, of course. 
> 
> We can choose  Thursday if the mass will be on Tuesday.   Also the closed
> team practice can open to 
> 2~5 guest players if the number is a problem.  ( we have around 20
players.
> If  more than half can show up, say 12. with 
> 4 guest players,  an 8x8 scrimage will be an ideal. ) 
> 
> 
> Guest players:    must play at the level higher than the norm of the team.
> Veteran priority. 
> 
> 
> -ps: 
> 
> 
> It has  been troubling  the way we having our practice, particularily on
> Sunday.    With  30 or more players in the field without an even split, 
> I can hardly imagine it is fun any more. 
> 
> 
> Soccoer is a matchup and position game.   If player running in  the field
> without the concept of  his position,  we just become a bunch of kids
> playing on 
> the street with chaos.  If you see more than 2 players chasing the ball
> simultaneously,   something is wrong.  And you can figure out the level of
> play. 
>   
> 
> 
> The idea of the scrimage is to have more fun and improve.   I think we can
> achieve that  with a private  session for the team. 
>   
> 
> 
> "Chen, Mark" wrote: 
> 
> 
> Wang Qi, they meant two sessions on one practice! I think... Either day is
> fine with me. However, Thuresday 6:00pm is out of the question. So it
looks
> like we have to choose Tuesday then. 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Wang, Julian [ mailto:jwang@Santera.com <mailto:jwang@Santera.com> ]

> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:57 PM 
> To: John Dong; Scott Bao; Tom Zheng 
> Cc: sports@rsn.hp.com 
> Subject: RE: [Soccer] change of mid-week game day
> The risk for two sections is that most people will go to thursday section
> except the walleyball guys. The tuesday section may become impossible. How
> about just tuesday? 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: John Dong [ mailto:johndong@microsoft.com
> <mailto:johndong@microsoft.com> ] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:24 PM 
> To: Scott Bao; Tom Zheng 
> Cc: sports@rsn.hp.com 
> Subject: RE: [Soccer] change of mid-week game day
> Agree with Scott, I think two session might be a better option.J 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Scott Bao [ mailto:sbao@cisco.com <mailto:sbao@cisco.com> ] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:17 PM 
> To: Tom Zheng 
> Cc: sports@rsn.hp.com 
> Subject: Re: [Soccer] change of mid-week game day
> Personally prefer Thursday.   Maybe we could have two sessions to
> accomondate different schedule. 
> ( an 18 by 18 scrimage  in the small field is just too many players. ) 
>   
>   
> 
> Tom Zheng wrote: 
> 
> 
> As some of you had known, we need to move our Wed. night game, 
> dueto the sudden enforcement from the city(no soccer practices on Wed 
> and Fri). 
> 
> Two options, Tuesday or Thursday nights, or may be both. Let's 
> see the votes. 
> 
> 
> My personal vote is tuesday night, and if it has to be thursday, 
> I'd like to see an earlier starting time, e.g., 6pm, so I may 
> still have the chance for the walleyball game:-) 
> 
> 
> Tom
> 
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